All the people who stay home because they don’t want to stink up to high heaven, and have trouble breathing with their pink lungs will all go out now…………it will boost the economy :0)
Jackie
Think about how many people may smoke less or at least try and quit now. it will help save the cost of healthcare, and lives. Now hand me a smoke!
http://www.mollylaich.com Molly
I’m against the smoking ban primarily for literary reasons.
marbee
Much like the newly exposed global warming debacle, which is nothing but an excuse for the government to legitimize the extreme taxation it would bring, the second hand smoke issue is nothing more than a way to control a huge segment of the population, perhaps as much as 1/2 of it or more. The newly created obesity ‘crisis’ that has kids feeling guilt, not love, is nothing more than a way for big pharma’s controlled FDA to further limit our choices and thus our very freedom! I know many professionals (educated) who will NOT work under smoke-free rules and have quit! So how many of the brightest and best has the professional world lost due to the preference of those less educated? How many business owners have lost everything due to those with their snobby anti-smoker bullying?
marbee
Since this whole charade of harm from smoke has been fully exposed like global warming, there is only one conclusion, total control of a previously free population. But the extreme taxation global warming’s cap and trade would bring enrages the same public that allows smokers to be outrageously taxed and discriminated against. There is just no other explanation feasible! This is just the beginning and people had best wake up very soon! These tobacco control nazi’s are breaking the bank, and you know what happens then! Total ruin. But then maybe that is the plan in the first place! Seems this is the way the whole country is going, who will be the rescuer?
From the Cato Institute:
The Second-Hand Smoke Charade http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5811
Quote: It now turns out that the influential 1993 EPA report “Respiratory Health Effects of Passive Smoking: Lung Cancer and Other Disorders” was as phony as a three-dollar bill. State officials and private businesses that believed that ETS was a public health danger (and not just a nuisance) were completely misled by the EPA. And, of course, so was main street American public opinion.
marbee
Smoking bans are DESIGNED to close pubs, kills two birds with one stone. It drives the need for the sheeple to purchase big pharma’s products. Big pharma is all about behavior control, not finding cures. They aren’t shy about it, it’s right on their tax exempt foundation’s website. In fact,you can buy their book on Amazon for $80.00: Robert Wood Johnson Foundation’s Series, Tobacco Control Policy. http://www.amazon.com/Tobacco-Control-Johnson-Foundation-Antholo/dp/078798745X
http://smokersclubinc.com Thomas Laprade
If bans were lifted??
And the final point is absurdly simple: If bans were “improving business” as ban advocates claim, then why is a law still needed? If the ban was lifted, would bartenders turn around and say, “Hey, let’s return to the old way where we didn’t make so much of this nasty smelly money?”
If anti-smokers were telling the truth, there would be no need to enforce the law: Business owners would continue with bans while enjoying more money. The improvement of business is a simple statistical lie, just as many of the bases upon which the ban was passed are also lies.
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/ html/12463. cfm
This prediction tool from Sloan Kettering can assess a long-term smoker’s risk of developing lung cancer in the next 10 years based on the person’s age, sex, smoking history, and asbestos exposure.
I used a 51 yr old female who smoked for 39 years at 15 cigarettes per day. Results: Over the next 10 years if she does not smoke the risk of developing lung cancer is 2%. If she continues to smoke her risk of developing lung cancer is 3%.
For a smoker? A 3% chance after smoking for 39 years? These nuts would trample private property rights for that? If that smoker has only a 3% chance, and these bans are to protect people who don’t even smoke, does this ban even make ANY sense? Does it?
I see absolutely NO evidence of all these supposed smoking related illnesses, only propoganda. Nor have I ever known anyone taking time off because of it and I know a lot of smokers. Smoking is not a disease that needs treatment like you see in ads nowdays. What a scam!
The smoking ban in Michigan will hurt taverns that serve no food. And by food I don’t mean beef jerky and pickled eggs. Those taverns will lose between a third to two thirds of their business and quite a few of them will go under. Some restaurants with a loyal clientele of smokers will also suffer and a few of them will go out of business. Most restaurants will see little effect as many are nonsmoking already. Beer and liquor distributors will see a drop in sales at those taverns. They might make up for them in liquor sales of smoker going to their local store and smoking and drinking at home. But the bottom line is that Michigan bars will lose business and many will go under within the first year of the ban. Veterans clubs will also suffer as a result of this ban.
Save this email and read it in a year from now. It is the truth.
Theodore J. King, author
The War on Smokers and the Rise of the Nanny State.
erik
Well, I didn’t expect a litany of slippery-slopey, wild claims linking smoking bans to Nazism, global warming and the absolute destruction of the economy, but I welcome a healthy debate. Does anyone disagree with these wild claims?
http://www.aalf.ws/SMOKERS-|BOYCOTT Lynda Farley
It will hurt plenty, as we don’t think it’s fair only restaurants and bars pay for stoopid smoking bans. We will stop spending ALL money in Michigan, and stop buying ALL produce and products from Michigan. The beauty of boycotting is we don’t have to wait for the next election. We can start VOTING WITH OUR DOLLARS ANYTIME. And, it doesn’t matter that I can’t vote in the ballot box in MI (since I live in Kentucky). I can VOTE WITH MY DOLLARS EVERY TIME I GO TO THE STORE! I get a charge out of throwing a bag of lettuce from The People’s Republic of California, a bag of potatoes from The People’s Republic of Idaho, a bag of oranges from The People’s Republic of Florida – etc. OUT of my shopping cart if my hubby accidentally puts it in there, while shopping at home in Kentucky for 6 kids and 8 grandkids. Go ahead, have your stoopid, UNconstitutional law. WE will NOT support communism in the USA. I would rather buy everything from China. I can continue to pray that some day their citizens will rise up and overthrow their communist government – but I DO NOT HAVE to LIVE there.
http://www.mollylaich.com Molly
“Since this whole charade of harm from smoke has been fully exposed like global warming” quoth Marbee.
Did you really say that? Do you really believe those words? Are you fucking kidding me?
Invalidating an extremely complicated, vast and nuanced issue like Global Warming based on a small pocket of shoddy science…. how convenient! How completely irrational and unenlightened!
You probably also think carbon dating isn’t real because once 20 years ago someone incorrectly dated elephant bones.
I’m usually a lot nicer when debating but today I am incensed. Anyway it’s not a debate when one of the participants doesn’t play by the rules.
megan
A friend and I are considering organizing an informal bar crawl on May 1st, where a bunch of us non-smokers will go to the smokeyest cool bars in our town. The places we always wanted to go to, but out weak lungs didn’t handle very well. I think people in other towns should do it too.
I’m more thrilled that the 24 hour diner near my house will now be smoke free. I do work there all the time, and now my friends will actually come with me.
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